Karl, calm down!
Karl, calm down please! Well, and don't spread lies !
As you can check yourself in our SVN repository, Zeeshan never has been removed from Planet GNOME. Recent changes to the configuration file all were additions. There is no single removal in the log for the last few weeks!
I really start to worry about all the hateress recently seen on Planet GNOME. I am guilty by myself. What happend to the fun? When did we loose our positive spirit? Are our GNOME related day jobs eating it?
Update: But it really seems like Zeeshan's Ubuntu post has been removed from the Planet's cache. I didn't thought this would be possible, but quickly reading over the aggregator's source code revealed that the planet-cache script has a --hide switch for censoring single posts.
So maybe censorship took place. Time for the responsible person to stand up and to explain what append.
Update2: Change the wording of the above update, since so far we just have indications, no proofs.
Update3: Jeff said on IRC that Zeeshan might just have triggered the two-posts-per person limit. Sounds reasonable, so this affair is over for me.
Karl said in his post:
The next thing that worries me is that Zeeshan’s posts have been removed from planet GNOME
To me, that doesnt sound like "Zeeshan" was removed from planet gnome but the post. And atleast, I cant find that post "Shame ubuntu shame". In rss feed that post was just between posts by gheet & iago ("new look for build.gnome.org" -> "EEE Pc at last"). Those two posts are still up in the front page but Zeeshan's post is not there anymore.
This is an extremely interesting question you rise:
"What happend to the fun? When did we loose our positive spirit? Are our GNOME related day jobs eating it?"
I have actually thought a lot about exactly this question recently. And I believe the answer is "yes".
I shall resist the urge to blog about it because PGO has been negative enough for me lately. Let me however drop a few comments here (duh, like I'm not doing this already! ;-P)
- Out there on the field many (low-profile) hackers believe that Gnome is becoming more and more controlled by companies. Arguing that it is primarily developed by people with commercial interest. I've encountered this belief many places. It appears to be exceptionally strong in the KDE camp.
- On many central Gnome mailing lists people tolerate only a very low level of "noise" and humorous content. Most conversations are very formal and are generally more negative than positive. This bears the mark of a "working place", not a place to "hang out and be hip to the jive"
I am not payed to do any of my Gnome work. I can certainly understand that people doing their day jobs are not interested in people slacking off and filling the channels with noise. Contrasting this I find that what I need to keep my motivational engine running is exactly a place where humour, positive spirits, open-mindedness, and technicalities can live side by side. Unfortunately I do not have such a place. Not in PGO or any of the mailing lists at least.
There is one place - #gnome-hackers. But IRC is not really suited for longer discussions. Then there is Twitter - but man, as if I'm not stressed out already! :-)
It was deleted? I wasn't even informed of this. I thought it's that glitch in planet GNOME that if i modify an older entry, it overwrites my new entry but i haven't modified any older entry than the one under discussion .
Zeeshan no idea, the current planet setup is not open enought to show if single posts were deleted. At leasts it's possible to censor single posts. Well, but I have to edit my post once again: So far we just have indications for censorship, no proofs.
Mathias I'm pretty calm :D I wanted to explain things a little and throw the question out there as to why Zeeshan's posts have mysteriously vanished.
I've just updated my post to bring a little more clarity and to try and stem the reactionary "type don't read" responses I'm getting now.
s/loose/lose/
What's this "two posts per person" rule? Never heard of it, and I'm afraid I might hit it now.
Dave.
Dave: You better ask Jeff for details. I asked him to post about it, but he is too pissed by this affair to do this.
I'm sorry to say this, but it's a thought I've had a lot of times:
GNOME is becoming an elite group of a few individuals controlling an empire.
According to http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/planet-web/t...
There is this setting: new_feed_items = 2
That setting causes at most two latest entries from each feed to be included on page. You can see how this works around like 80 in http://memojo.com/projects/venus/browser...
Good! BTW Karl doesn't seem Calm even when he is. :)
Erm. cheers Zeeshan... I think thats -1 for the irate geordie persona!
Damn my commoner upbringing!